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Top 10 Primal Clash Cards

#3 - Dive Ball

- Primal Clash

Date Reviewed:
Feb. 18, 2015

Ratings & Reviews Summary

Standard: 3.75
Expanded: 3.58
Limited: 4.67

Ratings are based on a 1 to 5 scale.
1 being horrible.  3 ... average.  5 is awesome.

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#3 Dive Ball 

Coming in at #3 on our list is Dive Ball, a card that has the distinction of being available in a super expensive, bling-tastic Secret Rare version. Or you could just pay pennies and get the regular uncommon. 

Make no mistake; Dive Ball is an excellent card in Water decks, but in all honesty, there’s not a lot to say about it. It will grab any Water Pokémon without the discard cost of Ultra Ball. This is a good thing, as that discard can sometimes involve painful choices, or indeed be impossible to pay (top-decking an Ultra Ball with 0-1 cards in hand is never fun).  

Of course, only pure-ish Water decks will want to use Dive Ball: it would certainly be a more than adequate replacement for the rotated Level Ball should anyone want to attempt a Blastoise BCR revival or try and give some play to the new Swampert PCL. Primal Kyogre EX decks will love this card too, but aside from that it’s difficult to see where it will be played right now: most Seismitoad decks run enough non-Water Pokémon (Garbodor LTR, Slurpuff PHF), to make the more versatile Ultra Ball a better choice. 

Clearly, Dive Ball will be a staple card in Water decks until it rotates (unless we get one that likes stuff in the discard pile). How much play it sees will therefore depend on how competitive that Type will be. 

Rating 

Modified: 3.5 (great in the right deck)

Expanded: 3 (not sure how much play Water gets here)

Limited: 5 (if you are using Water Pokémon)


aroramage

Ah yes, another one of those "Ball" cards, famous for being searchers, infamous for being extremely useful! Resting calm at out #3 spot is Dive Ball, and like every other Pokeball, it's got a search effect sure to turn things around.

 

All it does is add a Water Pokemon to the hand. Yep, that's it. Any Water Pokemon you want, it'll go straight to your hand. This will probably affect decks like Blastoise in a HUGE way, since now they don't need to work with Ultra Ball to snag the big guy from their decks for the Rare Candy, saving up their Energy-fueled hands to throw down on their big assault guy.

 

But why stop with just Blastoise? We've got a HUGE variety of Water Pokemon in both formats, like the old Kyogre-EX in Expanded, Keldeo-EX, Seismitoad-EX, Empoleon, Greninja, Swampert - but perhaps most important of all, the NEW Kyogre-EX! You look down that list, and there's a lot to cover! There's even more BEYOND that!

 

Right now though, there is one weakness to Dive Ball, and it's been pretty prominent: Seismitoad-EX. Scarily enough, one of its supports is also its biggest weakness as an Item card! It makes getting that Seismitoad-EX as simple as even just having a Skyla in hand, and that means the deck is going to be FASTER to get to Item-lock and MUCH more dangerous as a result. It's almost worrisome to the point I wonder if a mirror match would be just whoever Item-locks faster.

 

Regardless though, Water decks have got some great support with Blastoise, Archie, and now Dive Ball! Watch out world, Team Aqua's here to go on the rampage!

 

...provided Seismitoad-EX doesn't mess with us too much.

 

Rating

 

Standard: 4.5/5 (its one weakness is one of the cards it supports, which is just...scary)

 

Expanded: 4.5/5 (same here)

 

Limited: 5/5 (OF COURSE YOU'RE RUNNING IT if you've got a Water Pokemon)

 

Arora Notealus: I think I remember asking in a previous Ball-related review about perhaps the possibility of other Ball cards showing up. Now LET'S SEE SOME NEST BALL FOR GRASS-TYPES, am I right? Maybe? No? Well I don't want it to be Basic Pokemon, that'd be SCARY!!

 

Next Time: IS SO BEAUTIFUL, THE RISE OF THE FAIRY QUEEN


Otaku

Welcome to the second week of our Top 10 list for XY: Primal Clash.  In case someone is joining us late or only cared about the top three, the Pojo Top 10 list is compiled from individual Top 10s submitted by the CotD crew members.  We are trusted to set our own criteria apart from no reprints being allowed.  I was working on a comprehensive system, ran out of time, and so out of the 2-3 dozen cards that caught my eye I narrowed it down to 10 that seemed like they either should be good, popular or both.  For better or worse, I feel like popular cards need coverage because if its played heavily its still a significant part of the metagame.

 

Today we look at Seismitoad-EX Ball.

 

Wait, that isn’t right.

 

Dive Ball.  The card is Dive Ball (XY: Primal Clash 125/160).  It is an Item that allows you to search your deck for a Water-Type Pokémon and add it to your hand.  As my opening joke indicated, the first thing I thought of when seeing this card was Seismitoad-EX.  I’m not sure if that is fair, but mostly because Seismitoad-EX is often run with several other Pokémon-Types, making it questionable whether avoiding the discard of a card like Ultra Ball is worth likely snagging just Seismitoad-EX in many decks.  Probably not in general, but for certain builds, namely those where Seismitoad-EX isn’t the main focus but used mostly to buy time to set-up, it would allow you to run fewer copies while any Korrina or Skyla could instantly search out Seismitoad-EX.

 

So what about other Water-Types?  In a mostly or mono-Water-Type deck I would think this a must run.  I’ve seen a lot more people trying to make Water-Type decks work, and Dive Ball is one reason (Archie’s Ace in the Hole was usually the other).  This includes oddities like trying to revive Deluge decks but going back to Keldeo-EX and perhaps Suicune as the main attackers, as they are perfectly legal Dive Ball targets.  There isn’t much else to say; its a simple card with a simple effect that works simply brilliant in the right decks but probably isn’t worth running in most.

 

Ratings

 

Standard: 3.25/5 - In most decks it is probably useless or else overly specialized, in mono/mostly Water-Type decks it is potentially a maxed out staple, as such I went with a composite score.

 

Expanded: 3.25/5 - As above and with the usual caveat; more options to search for but also more options to do the searching; for example I mentioned how this card made me think of Seismitoad-EX but in Expanded, Heavy Ball can target it.

 

Limited: 4/5 - A must run if you can make use of it for anything that isn’t pure filler; plenty of decks won’t have a Water-Type (or at least one worth searching out), especially +39 decks.

 

Summary: Dive Ball is welcome support for Water-Types but I’m not sure how much will really be able to take proper advantage of it.  Primal Kyogre-EX is one of the faces of this set and obviously a possible target, though I am having my doubts about Primal Kyogre-EX and how strong it really is.  Seismitoad-EX is a popular, widely run Water-Type but as it is usually off-Type it just makes more sense to fetch it with the Ultra Ball (or other generic search) you’re going to need to run anyway… perhaps barring a few specific exceptions.

 

This card clocked in as #3 because I had been getting hammered by Seismitoad-EX decks the last few days and so I panicked and put it as my #2 pick.  In hindsight it doesn’t seem that good but it probably should be a part of the top 10; specialized but strong in that specialty.


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