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Forbidden Orchard 
Champions of Kamigawa


Reviewed October 8, 2004

Constructed: 3.4
Casual: 2.9
Limited: 1.7

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Scott
Gerhardt

It's kinda not fair for me to review this card.  I think I like it too much.  I'm a multicolor player, and things that allow me to tap for any color, not take pain, not stagnate my mana supply, and not require me to play some kinda permanent makes me happy.  So what - they get a 1/1.  Big freakin' deal.  There are plenty of ways to even abuse this fact.  I like this card, and I like it a lot.  I can see very little reason why this would not see a TON of play in constructed, and I think in many ways, it becomes the premiere way to generate any color of mana in type 2.

In limited, it's "amen" good.  Tapping for any color is so important in an environment where color is so important to have.  I'm gonna be thrilled every time I open this in limited.  It's a 4-6th pick in draft usually, but it's a must play in virtually any deck.  If they get a couple 1/1s, oh well.  You have the ultimate smoother, and you're not REQUIRED to use this card to play EVERY single spell.

Constructed: 5
Limited: 4.5


Chris
Gerhardt

* game store owner in CA, ShuffleAndCut

So, the new City of Brass.   But this one deals a different kind of pain to you. It sets little 1/1's on your opponent's side to nip at your heals, or chump block your attackers.  But just how significant is it?  I suppose it would totally depend on your deck's ability to deal with a possible 1/1 swarm.  In some cases, you'll actually want your opponent to have 1/1s (see Oath of Druids).  This could be pretty damn fun in Casual, too.

In limited, not so good, boss.  The last thing you want to do in limited is give your opponent creatures for free.  You might consider it if you just absolutely need the color smoothing, or to help splash something awesome.

Constructed: 4
Casual: 4
Limited: 1.5

   Current Price:
Forbidden Orchard - Champions of Kamigawa - $8.12

   Combos Well With:
Oath of Druids - Exodus - $6.97
City of Brass - 8th Edition - $5.38
 


Judge Bill

*Level 2
MTG Judge

*game store employee

Let's see. Gives your opponent a 1/1.
 
In standard or extended, I'd rather take the 1 damage now than let it build up over time.  But drawbacks can be benefits sometimes.  Try Oath of Druids.
 
In block, I think the drawback is too great to use this as mana fixing.
 
In limited, again, the drawback is too great. I'd rather just have a basic land instead.
 
Constructed: 3.5 (Type 1/1.5), 1.5 (everywhere else)
Casual: 2
Limited: 1
 


Jeff Zandi

5 Time Pro Tour
Veteran

Forbidden Orchard
This card is the forbidden fruit of mana production! Tap for any color mana,
no City of Brass-like damage, just put a 1/1 in play on your opponent's side
of the table. At first glance, this drawback seems too high to overcome,
especially in limited. In constructed decks, especially combo decks, the
ability to easily create any color mana may be too good to ignore. Good or
not, this card should be highly collectible.
CONSTRUCTED: 3.5
CASUAL:           3.5
LIMITED:          2.0

Ray "Monk"
Powers
* Level 3 DCI Judge
*DCI Tournament Organizer

Forbidden Orchard

 

It’s the new City of Brass! Well, sort of, it does product any color of mana, and it is les fragile than Thran Quarry or Glimmervoid, not requiring anything else to be in play for it to stay there. And, where there’s a disadvantage, there’s a way to negate it. The card is already seeing some play for type I, where no one cares if you get a 1/1 creature, and for Oath of Druids decks, which are all too happy to give you a creature.

 

Constructed:                 4

Casual:                         4

Limited:                        2


DeQuan
Watson

 

This is a completely fair and balanced card. It's a risk to use at any time, but if you have a way to deal with those small creatures, it might be useful. Looking at the card though, I wouldn't expect a lot out of it. Except for block formats, I'd prefer to just use City of Brass.

Constructed: 2
Casual: 1
Limited: 1.5
Paul
Hagan
Forbidden Orchard --

This card amuses me. For either Constructed or Casual, it really makes you consider how badly you want to have good mana for a price. Do you have a way to get rid of the 1/1 tokens? How much damage can they do to you? How important is that mana? It seems like this card is a very roundabout City of Brass -- you'll wind up taking that 1 damage sooner or later. With this in mind, I think I would rather of the City; at least it doesn't provide blockers for my opponent.

In limited, I really don't think I'm brave enough to play this card without a way to rid my opponent of 1/1s, like a pinger or just a bunch of big dudes. It will more often than not wind up hanging out in my sideboard, away from the real cards.

Constructed Rating: 2.5 [good only if a select few decks]
Casual Rating: 2.5 [see above]
Limited Rating: 1.5Just


Andy
 Van Zandt

Forbidden Orchard
Sometimes better and sometimes worse than a city of brass,  but certainly on
par in a lot of situations,  and importantly better in others.  I don't
expect to see it to facilitate the splash color in a goblin deck (especially
with sharpshooter out of type 2),  but there are some decks that can
completely ignore the drawback.
constructed 3.5
casual 3.5
limited 2.5
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Forbidden Orchard

This is our City of Brass land.  It doesn’t work perfectly in the early game, as giving them a creature is never too good an idea.  It’s not that bad late game, but that’s not when you need this. However, Kai Budde mentioned this card in combination with Oath of Druids and in Alluren.  I don’t think we need this right now in Constructed, however it’s definitely a good card that will see play in those decks.

In limited, no, just no.

Constructed: 4
Casual: 3
Limited: 1.5

 

 

 

 

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