Subject: Crab-Turtle Strategy!!! ever get tired of tributing 8 stinkin' levels to bring out Crab Turtle. For this tip you need- -Crab Turtle / Turtle Oath -Blue Eyes White Dragon ( or any other high level 8 attack card) -Monster Reborn Start out by using Turtle Oath. Offer from your hand, BEWD. This summons out crab turtle. Then flip up the monster reborn! Neither of them can be Trap Holed as they are special summoned. This is highly effective when they have no cards to defend their lifepoints. (something like Mystical Space Typhoon wouldn't be too bad to have incase of Waboku, Enchanted Javelin, etc.) In ONE turn you can knock out 5550 lifepoints! Also- I don't know if this works, but did anyone notice for Ritual Magic cards it says to offer 8 stars from your hand or THE FIELD. "the field" means opponents monsters too. Don't know if this works or not but it's worth a try. Brett Shaw brettshaw19@hotmail.com ---------- MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 3 months FREE*.