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Latias Ex
Overview: One of the most wanted cards in the set, Latias EX.
For 1 colorless energy, Hypnoblast gives an automatic 10 damage
as well as a chance at sleep. And Mistball for 1 water, fire and
colorless does 100 damage if you discard 1 water and fire. In a
word, sucks. It is a less of a lugia with an extra attack and 2
weaknesses. I only suggest this card for collectors. There are a
few intresting qualities to it though. For one, it is weak to
Colorless. This is one of the few pokemon TCG cards that exsist
that is weak to colorless Pokemon, and it has TWO resistances,
mize. While most ex pokemon would have 2 weaknesses, this one
has 2 resistances, Psychic and Fighting. And ofcourse, being an
EX pokemon makes it have the 2 prize rule. Your opponent kills
it, your opponent gets 2 prizes. Bad. Also 2 retreat cost for a
basic is a tad high, but what else can we expect from EX pokemon?
Unlimited: No, play Lugia instead(sarcasm) 1/5
Modified: Keep it in the shoebox. 1/5
Draft: It could be a tad more useful in Draft. For some reason
it always seems to me that EX cards come in handy at times in
draft. My advice is add it to your deck atleast for stalling and
if it works out great. If not, ebay's url is www.ebay.com 2/5
Hedge
Latias ex
Lol… There is a shack, in
Michigan, where once every week, a group of Pokemon players
meet to hold a small scale tourney. And ever since Dragons
was released, I have held an argument with a lot of good
players there, including Sean, Burninate Torchic, and
others, about this card and its cousin Latios ex. So I will
dedicate this CotD review to these two cards (and how Latias
is better lol).
Now, everyone says
that Latios ex is more gainful because of a higher HP count
and an attack that retrieves energy. Now I understand that
if you use Juggler you have a possibility of a second turn
100 dmg with Latios ex, but it is a flip, and it
won’t happen often. I believe that Latias is better because
often times 90 HP is just as good as 100 HP (with all of
those even flip damaging attacks) and as for a starter,
sleep will be more efficient in early game than middle game
recovery-from-discard-tactics. As for middle and late game,
since Latias’ Mist Ball attack only discards two energy, you
could use Harvest Bounty Venusaur to do 100 dmg a turn (with
a little help from a few good Fisherman I know lol). Not
only can Latias ex do that, but it has better defenses also.
Fighting is becoming a popular
metagame type just because of Amphy ex… so it’s always good
to have that as a resistance (not to mention lightning
resistance lol), but who plays grass anymore? Aggron ex is
too much of a threat… However, Latias ex’s psychic
resistance is very valuable… Garde ex is way too strong
right now. Plus, Latias ex does Sleep, which can come in
handy with a bit of luck when in a tight situation. Let’s
see if I missed anything… PPPR’s. Let’s check them out.
Oddly enough, they both get the same PPPR; 14 ˝ But
anyways, you know my reasoning. Weakness to colorless makes
them both vulnerable to DT (Drag0n TeCh; what I call cards
that are splashed nowadays to beat colorless weak Dragons)
such as Zangoose, Crystal Shard, and Skyridge Ditto (Yes
people, I have had one of my Flygons defeated by a Ditto in
a Scepticenter deck -__-).
Alright then, I’ve already
written more than I invest in my school science fair
project, which is a warning sign lol, so I better go.
Written By: ~Hedge
Written December 2,
2003
Bullados
Strategy for Latias ex
Attributes:
90 HP isn’t all that much for an ex type. It basically ammounts
to a 50 HP and a 40 HP basic, which, IMO, isn’t all that great.
Weakness to colorless is extremely new to this game, and it will
be interesting to see how this pans out. Personally, I think
that this particular weakness has been long in coming. Dual
resistances are always good, especially here, where he has
resistance to two of the major types in Modified: Psychic and
Fire. Take advantage of this whenever possible. Finally, his RC
is 2, which is payable, but you might not want to pay it all the
time.
Attack #1: “Hypnoblast”
It’s a support attack, and pretty pathetic at that. Sleep was
never a great status, and 10 damage leaves something to be
desired on an ex type.
Attack #2: “Mist Ball”
Shades of Charizard, only more difficult to use. This is my main
problem with these Dragon Pokemon: all of their main atttacks
use at least 2 different types of energy. Here, you have to
discard one of each, making it much harder to power up AND keep
maintained.
Ratings:
Unlimited:
Ummm, no. Not enough HP, too weak an attack, 2 prizes for your
opponent. Also, it’s extremely ER and SER prone. Don’t use him
here. 1.125/5
Modified:
Much better. Try and play him in a Swampert deck for some extra
fun. It’d be interesting to see how many [R] energies you can
get piled on this guy before Swampert comes into play and really
powers him up. Otherwise, don’t waste your time. 2.5/5
Limited:
Amazing. Not quite a first pick in draft, but still extremely
good. If you get him, use him as your main attacker. 100 damage
is nothing to sneeze at, even with the heavy discard. You’ll be
running multiple types anyway, so he’ll be fairly easy to power
up. He should take 2-3 prizes before he is KO’d. 4.25/5
~Bullados
Patriarch
Boy, I like legendaries! Brace
yourselves, 'cause Latias ex is about to take you down at top
speed! *is knocked out of his chair*
This guy is pretty neat. At 90 HP, he'll be a virtual wall in
many situations, so you'll be able to boost your bench.
Hypnoblast, an attack with a 50/50 chance of sleep, isn't too
thrilling. Use it only when it's early game, building him up, or
find it absolutely necessary to stall. Mist Ball, however, is a
cool attack! Although you must discard a water AND a fire,
you'll be doing 100 damage: enough to kill most Pokemon, or
severely damage Pokemon ex!
His bottom stats make him...mixed, to say. On one hand, you have
DOUBLE resistance: one to Fighting, and one to psychic! The
latter is very attractive, as it may further help you handle
Gardevoir ex and Wobbuffet! Unfortunately, he has a weakness to
colorless: the most splashable of all types! You may find
yourself being murdered by stupid little things like Delcatty
and other dragons, even! Makes my life all the more
challenging...to top it off, he's got a somewhat chunky retreat,
and the stature of Pokemon ex. Now I'm not sure what to think...
Unlimited (2/5): This is so chunky, it'll be eaten quickly by
faster guys. However, the plus side to him is that he's fighting
resistant: back off, Tyrogue!
Modified (3.5/5): Since we have many things to worry about here,
Latias ex may die quickly. However, if you keep him out long
enough, then it'll all be worth it, as he can smoke countless
guys...quickly! He could win you games, but make sure that you
play buffer piece in any deck with this guy in it, or you'll be
at the end of a Colorless poke, or *snickers* Crystal Shard.
Limited (4/5): This guy is outright VICIOUS here! Although you
need to make sure he's protected (again, buffer piece), this
card will be able to win you games against EVERYTHING here!
Combo him with cards like Magneton, and you're gonna do well!
Unfortunately, there are more Dragons in...ex Dragons ^_^"".
This means that you have to worry about weakness. Other than
that, it's pretty good!
"The Cabal is here, and everywhere."
Perfect0ne
We may have a new archetype on our
hands.
Unlimited- His energy requirements may seem high, but with
Raindance, it may have a chance. If you pull off the 100 damage
a turn, you will most likely pull a nice lead in unlimited, but
with Wiggly and especially Fable, it runs into a wall. Also be
aware of Unown N and Sprout tower. Like i said, it does have a
chance.
rating--- 2.5
Modified- Archetype material when used with Swampert. It needs
to worry about decks that run Crystal shard, Ampharos ex, and
opposing dragons unless you have multiple swamperts and another
latias ex handy =/. Anyway, it really is a very basic idea,
which really has proven very powerful in my testing, as well as
Latios ex with Boost energy and support. Its too bad that its
resistance is to psychic rather than electric, otherwise he
would balance with Swampert so well.
rating--- 4.125
Draft- Its good. in between waiting for the 100 damage attack
again, his sleep inducing attack has a 25% chance of keeping
them asleep on their turn. You could use him as back-up to OHKO
one of their hitters thats hurting you. Its HP wont hold up long
later in the game, but early, there wont be many threats and he
may win you the game unless you run into energy denial or a fast
opponent.
rating--- 3.875
2 vs. 2- He doesn't seem to be a good candidate here, as he
doesn't combo well with anyone specifically for this format.
rating--- 4
Multiplayer- You get to choose who is the bigger threat, and
with such a deck, your ally might get away with pulling off a
slower or harder to pull off deck, such as Golem/ex, Charizard,
or something with a Gust-like ability, such as cradily to lure
out what latias wants to kill.
rating--- 4.25
psychup2034
So this is the new combo with Swampert.
Latias ex is kinda like Latios ex. Different double resistance,
10 less HP, one less energy discard from attack, energy discard
from attack is limiting, and its first attack can't help it
power up quicker, merely a measely stall tool that will prove to
be less than useful 75% of the time.
Latias is better than Latios in the game, by far, in terms of
defense. It can handle 3 Ice beams (stabbed with low spec att),
unlike its counterpart. This now Latias in the card game seems
to be the opposite of defensive, carrying less defense, and a
more economical attack.
Here's the spoiler.
Latias ex [C] 90 HP
Basic Pokemon
[C] Hypnoblast 10
Flip a coin, if heads the defending Pokemon is now asleep.
[W][R][C] Mist Ball 100
Discard a [W] and a [R] attached to Latias ex.
Weakness: [C]
Resistance: [P][F]
Retreat Cost: [C][C]
This card is Fire/Water, not bad type combo, but you could
really make good use of its ability to combo with some popular
Stage 2s. The two combos that come to mind are Swampert and
Blaziken. On second thought, Blaziken might not be that good
with this card, since you don't get to choose any energy to
discard (like Latios ex does). However, Swampert's power allows
me to attach to Latias the turn after I Mist Balled, allowing me
to use it the next turn. Its a good combo, but the problem is,
how often is it acutlaly going to work. On top of that, how do
you fix the problem that most heavy hitters with a Crystal Shard
will take down this guy in one blow? These are questions to ask
while building a deck around cards like these.
Let's take a look at how this card would fare realistically.
Hypnoblast won't do anything. 10 damage is like standard, and
stay sleep is like 25%. How good can that be? Not very. Latias
ex doesn't have as good of a first attack as Latios ex. I think
I've made that clear by now.
Once again, most Pokemon ex aren't very effective in unlimited.
With the exception of cards like Scyther ex, Mewtwo ex, KAbutops
ex, Gardevoir ex, and maybe Ampharos ex, most other ex cards are
pretty shabby in Unlimited. Though scoop up will always do the
trick, briney's compassion now replaces scoop up, but can't be
used on this card.
Unlimited: Well, let's see. Wiggly is still alive, so is Chansey,
(even though lost metal), this thing is not worth playing.
However, might work in rain dance decks. or even with rain
dance/porygon2, well, I just got crazy with combos that won't
work. 0.5/5
Modified: Combos with Swampert, Blaizken, Salamence maybe cards
like Shyridge zam even, but its not such a great card. Unlike
Latios ex who has a perfect combo with flygon, this thing's best
bet is to be hanging out with swampert, who isn't that great,
but puts an end to those ugly blazikens. 2/5
Limited: Good card here, should draw you about one prize, to
give up 2. ._. Ok, actually, its not that great. Latios ex is
better here once again, because it can power you up after you
discard. This thing can just stall in sleep, and it requires you
to discard 2 specific types, possibly screwing you the next
turn. Colorless weakness is no good, since most of the
draft/sealed decks contain salamence or flygon, and shelgon and
vibrava takes this latias down pretty easily. 2/5
Thanks for reading.
--- psychup2034
Otaku
Name: Latias ex
Type: Colorless
Stage: Base
HP: 90
Weakness: Colorless
Resistance: Psychic,
Fighting
Retreat: CC
Attack#1: (C)
Hypnoblast [10]
Flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokémon is
now Asleep.
Attack#2: (RWC)
Mist Ball [100]
Discard a (R) and a (W) Energy attached to
Latias ex.
Attributes:
We have the only Latias ex. As a Colorless Basic Pokémon, its
closest competition is Chansey ex, Latios ex, and Rayquaza ex.
In terms of attributes, there are also several close candidates
who are not Pokémon ex. For the most part, in Unlimited,
none of those Pokémon are really used-I know some people still
use Base Set Chansey, and I myself use Jungle Snorlax, but we’re
the minority. For Modified, we see even less Basic Colorless
Pokémon. So I won’t be going for comparisons today: instead,
I’ll just explain why the stats are hot or not. So, being
Colorless originally was a “neutral”
trait: nothing was Weak or Resistant to it. Then in the Neo
sets, we got two sources of “artificial” Resistance: Pokémon
Tower and Unown N. While many times we reviewers bring those
up, it’s mainly as a caution in case the card proves abnormally
potent. There are better Stadiums than Tower and Unown N is
Zzap/GoW-bait. Anyway, being Colorless is almost balanced
again: with the newer cards we see Colorless Weakness now… in
fact, that’s what this card has. =P Colorless weakness is… “meh”.
=/ In Unlimited, there aren’t a lot of “random” Colorless
Pokémon in every deck, but the instance this thing becomes
popular, watch all those Erika’s Jigglypuff re-assert their
place in decks everywhere. Erika’s Jigglypuff just needs a Plus
Power to FTKO Latias ex. In Modified, people have been
stock-piling Zangoose for just this purpose. The evolved
“Dragon” Pokémon get OHKO’d by Zangoose, while Latias ex is
“only” 2/3 dead. Back up top for HP: 90. For a Basic, this is
good. For a Basic Pokémon ex, its 10 shy of being “good”. Oh
well. The Resistance is a first: double Resistance: both
Psychic and Fighting. This is very nice in my opinion. It
actually has a slight use in Unlimited (Tyrogues!). In
Modified, it can slow down the infamous Gardevoir/Gardevoir ex
decks (or Gex as I call them =P). There are also a handful of
Fighting decks struggling to make it, and I think they have a
shot. Let’s not forget the abundant use of Wobbuffet either.
So yeah, these Resistances are good. Finally, the retreat is
two. This is average: if you gotta retreat, you can pay it:
otherwise don’t.
Abilities:
Hypnoblast is a nice, cheap, opening number. For a mere
colorless energy, you get the obligatory 10 damage and a shot at
Sleep as a bonus. Not bad… so long as the other attack proves
it worthy of being a Pokémon ex. Mist Ball does 100 damage, and
that’s nice. Only a few Evolutions (some of which are Pokémon
ex themselves) would survive. The cost is steep however: we
have both dual energy requirements and a dual discard cost.
Normally, a different energy type in the [same] attack’s cost
should be worth 5-10 extra damage: it requires a little more
effort to play. I normally treat a discard as having paid
another of that energy to attack. When both Energy types are
involved in the discard cost, though, things get tricky. Let’s
see, 2 colored and a colorless energy would normally yield 40;
tack on an extra 5 per colored energy since there are two types
and finally treat them as 2 more for being discarded (making it
more like RRWWC), with a total plus 20 (like I said, +5 per
colored energy) and… we come to 90. That sounds about right.
Normally, that wouldn’t be so bad, but think: this is a Pokémon
ex. That means we are risking 2 prizes for what? About 10
extra HP (The e-card Legendary Birds have 80 with really good
attacks but horrible Poké-Bodies), a free chance at Sleep and 10
extra damage. The dual Resistance shows up on other “Dragons”
that are not Pokémon ex, in case you were wondering: it appears
to be meant to offset Colorless Weakness.
Uses/Combinations:
If it wasn’t a Pokémon ex, I would
think of it like the e-birds even more: those cards, in a deck
built around them, are still pretty strong. I can see similar
uses for Latias ex: maybe use it with Harvest Bounty Venusaur so
that it could attack every turn. I guess in decks that use the
appropriate energy combination, it might work too…
Ratings
Unlimited:
1.5/5-with Chaos Gym and Harvest Bounty Venusaur, you can have a
lot of fun… but not a lot of wins.
Modified: 3/5-In
Eon, the deck stands a chance at winning some more… but keep in
mind that as occasional TecH and a deck focus, it gets a 3…
normally I give something that’s really good and had a deck
around it a 3.75 or more… so it’s still not so hot. If it had
more HP and did a bit more damage (say both 120) then we could
see a solid deck around it.
Limited: 2/5-The
only reason to risk it is that if you can bench and build it
long enough, you might be able to use it to power through 2-3
Pokémon for the win. Otherwise there are a decent helping of
colorless Pokémon in most sets, and they could eat it.
Oh well, if this and/or the other Dragons become
popular, at least some of the neglected Colorless Evolution
lines from Skyridge would be of use (go Granbull, Persian, and
Ursaring! ;) ).
-Otaku
Ralphy
Ralphy-
Sorry for the long layoff in
writting reviews, I've been out filming for Thriller, a
skate vid hitting a store near you soon.
Latias Ex. had it not been an Ex
Poke, would just be plain sick. Too bad it is a an Ex.
Unlimited- I never thought I
would see the day, but Latias Ex has a weakness to
colorless. The new worst weakness to have in Unlimited in
now colorless. Chansey, Wiggly and various other cards take
this out in one shot, and get two prizes. Need I say more?
Even if I have to. I wont. 1/5
Modified- Not too bad here. The
90 HP is nice, and it will go even further with the duel
resistances. Boy is this card ever twisted, weakness to
colorless and deul resistances. Latias Ex is like the Jackie
Robinson of The Pokmon TCG. Well maybe not, but it is pretty
cool. Anyway, attack wise, the first one just doesn't
belong. In this day and age, when retreat gets rid of sleep,
you shouldn't have to flip. Especially when combined with a
10 attack. Mist Ball is pretty decent. But you'll be buring
through a lot of energy and the secondary attack doesn't do
anything to back it up. Nice against Psychic which is making
a stronger showing in Modified, as is rock. Not really worth
it though, 2.25/5 here.
Limited- Unless your building a
fire/water deck, don't darft this. But, even if you are,
think twice still. The sleep effect is nice, even if it is
in a flip, and any resistance is good, and as the saying
goes, "two is better than one." 90 HP is a nice add on. Mist
Ball works for a nice KO is you need one to finish the game.
Don't plan on getting too many more than that though. 2.5/5
here.
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