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							Nidoking #6/102  HS Triumphant 
							Date Reviewed: 
							Dec. 2, 2010 
							
							Ratings
                            & Reviews Summary
 Modified: 2.60
 Limited: 2.75
 
							Ratings are based
                            on a 1 to 5 scale. 1 being the worst.
 3 ... average.
 5 is the highest rating.
 
							
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						Nidoking 
						(Triumphant) 
						
						  
						
						It seems weird, but this card has been getting a bit of 
						minor, low-key hype. Even minor hype for a Pokémon with 
						a single four Energy attack seems highly unlikely in 
						this format doesn’t it? Maybe we should really take a 
						look at this card . . . 
 
						
						  
						
						Nidoking 
						is a Fighting Type Stage 2 with a bigger than average 
						140 HP. It has Water Weakness which probably wouldn’t 
						have mattered before Triumphant was released, but now
						Gyarados decks are getting 
						popular again, could be a real liability (especially as
						Gyarados resists Fighting).
						Nidoking can at least boast 
						an awesome Lightning Resistance, even if the Retreat 
						cost of three is something it would likely try to avoid 
						in conversation. 
						
						  
						
						So . . . why the hype then? To answer that question, we 
						need to take a look at the PokeBody, Pheromone Stamina. 
						This has the effect of giving 
						Nidoking an extra 20 HP for every
						Nidoqueen in play, boosting 
						his HP to a theoretical 220 HP, or 240 with an Expert 
						Belt!  
						Factor in the healing from 
						Nidoqueen RR’s Maternal Comfort Body (though you 
						can only use one per turn), and presumably this thing 
						NEVER DIES while it smashes Luxray 
						face! 
						
						  
						
						Notice I used the word ‘theoretical’. No-one running 
						this should ever assume that they are going to be 
						hitting those kind of 
						numbers. Even under ideal conditions, it is unlikely 
						that you will be setting up more than 1-2
						Nidoqueen: there simply 
						won’t be time or Bench space for anything
						else 
						- after all, you won’t be getting that set 
						up with out help from Uxie 
						and Azelf, and that’s before 
						you even think about a back up 
						Nidoking and any other techs you might want to 
						run. 
						
						  
						
						Then there is the problem of speed. Not only do you have 
						the clunky set up, you also have the fact that Venomous 
						Horn costs [F][F][C][C]. 
						True, it does do 80 damage (let’s call it 90 with the 
						auto-Poison), but for that kind of Energy, it’s pretty 
						much the minimum you would expect. While you try and 
						power that up (and bench Queens!), your opponent is 
						going to have plenty of time to come up with answers, or 
						just disrupt you with KOs to the extent that the deck is 
						never going to work. 
						
						  
						
						So yeah, you can include me with those people who don’t 
						understand why this card is getting ANY attention. It 
						moves at roughly the speed of a tectonic plate and is 
						destroyed by two of the most popular decks in the format 
						at the moment, with Dialga G 
						LV X shutting off the body and 
						Gyarados smacking it for Weakness. 
						
						  
						
						The revival of ‘Monarchy’ decks just got put on hold. 
						
						  
						
						Rating 
						
						  
						
						Modified: 2 (potential huge HP, but the concept doesn’t 
						really work) 
						
						Limited: 2 (There is a decent 
						Nidoqueen in the set, but are you really going to 
						pull multiple Stage 2s from 6 packs?) 
						
						  
						
						Combos With . . . 
						 
						
						  
						
						Nidoqueen 
						RR 
						
						Nidoqueen 
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              | virusyosh | Happy Thursday, Pojo readers! Our Card of the Day 
						week continues with a card from the HS Triumphant 
						expansion that received a fair bit of hype before the 
						set was released, but has seen much play since. Today's 
						Card of the Day is Nidoking.
 Nidoking is a Stage 2 Fighting Pokemon. Fighting Pokemon 
						are somewhat common in today's metagame, as Machamp and 
						Promo Toxicroak G are rather common, with the occasional 
						appearance by things like Donphan, Relicanth, and Mankey 
						SV. 140 HP is good for a Stage 2, it means that Nidoking 
						should be able to withstand a hit or two. Water Weakness 
						is terrible with Gyarados's sudden surge in popularity. 
						Lightning Resistance, however, is quite awesome: Luxray 
						will have a much more difficult time making a dent into 
						Nidoking, whereas Nidoking can easily OHKO back. 
						Finally, a Retreat Cost of 3 is pretty terrible, so make 
						sure to use Warp Point/Warp Energy/Switch to retreat.
 
 Nidoking has a Poke-Body and a single attack. The Body, 
						Pheromone Stamina, makes Nidoking have 20 more HP for 
						each Nidoqueen you have in play. This makes Nidoqueen RR 
						a natural partner for Nidoking, as Multiple Nidoqueens 
						on the Bench will raise Nidoking's HP to high levels, 
						and Maternal Comfort will remove damage counters between 
						turns. However, getting a Nidoking and multiple 
						Nidoqueens out at the same time will prove to be very 
						difficult, as getting out multiple Stage 2s can be very 
						difficult in our current metagame. Additionally, even 
						with a single Nidoqueen HP boost, Gyarados will still 
						OHKO with Tail Revenge as long as all three Magikarps 
						are in the discard pile, so keep that in mind if you 
						were thinking of running a Nidoking deck for Cities.
 
 Nidoking's single attack, Venomous Horn, does 80 damage 
						and automatically Poisons for [FFCC]. This attack is 
						super-expensive, but works with the idea of having 
						Nidoking as a tank pretty well. However, 4 energy 
						attacks are simply too slow for the fast-paced Modified 
						format we have today, so this one may have to wait until 
						the rotation to enjoy great use.
 
 Modified: 2.25/5 Nidoking's attack is too expensive for 
						the damage output, and Pheromone Stamina requires too 
						much setup to be effective in today's metagame. Being 
						Gyarados bait certainly doesn't help matters out, 
						either. Maybe after rotation this will see some play, 
						but not quite yet.
 
 Limited: 3/5 High HP, decent Weakness, good Resistance, 
						a decent attack, and some Colorless Energy requirements 
						make Nidoking a decent pick for Limited. Of course, it 
						is a Stage 2 and Pheromone Stamina will rarely be 
						useful, but 80 + auto Poison for 4 really is pretty 
						decent in Limited. Chances are, if you get it out, 
						you'll win.
 
 Combos With: Nidoqueen RR
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						12/2/10: Nidoking(Triumphant)  
						
						One thing that interests me about Triumphant is that it 
						has the potential to be the next Stormfront: a set which 
						produces multiple archetypes that radically change the 
						game. However, unlike Stormfront, there are no Pokemon 
						that are virtually guaranteed to be archetypes, no 
						Machamp or Gengar which outright screams “Play me, I'm 
						awesome!*”(Ironically, the only Pokemon that could fit 
						that role in the set are Machamp and Gengar Prime.) 
						Nidoking, along with the previously reviewed Mew and 
						Yanmega Primes, fits this description.   
						
						*That being said, a screaming card would be rather 
						weird. So there you go.  
						
						Anyways, Nidoking combos well with Nidoqueen, gaining 
						+20 HP for each one you have in play. The best choice, 
						of course, is Nidoqueen RR, whose healing abilities have 
						been evident in previous formats. This strategy would 
						have been better served in a format with enough 
						consistency to assemble two Stage 2s at the same time, 
						but it can still be done, especially considering each 
						card's tanking abilities. Venomous Horn is crazy 
						expensive at FFCC, and 80 plus poison isn't great 
						damage. Then again, the one constant about tanking decks 
						is that its attacks may very well be horrible, so long 
						as it can stay alive long enough. That will be the 
						factor by which Nidoking should ultimately be judged.  
						
						Modified: 3/5Limited: 2.5/5
 Combos With: Nidoqueen RR
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              | Mad Mattezhion Professor Bathurst League Australia
 | Nidoking (HS Triumphant)
 Hey guys, I managed to get online! Woohoo! Hopefully 
						I'll be able to solve my tech problems some time soon, 
						but until then I won't have much luck getting reviews 
						in. Stay tuned, I will get caught up!
 
 Now the actual review. Nidoking is my favourite Pokemon 
						from the whole franchise (purple yet still monstrously 
						awesome, a truly rare combination!) and this card is 
						also a contender for the highest possible HP score in 
						the history of the game, so expect a lot of fanboy love 
						today!
 
 The stats: 140 HP (but easily boosted) Fighting Stage 2 
						with Water weakness, Lightning resistance and a retreat 
						cost of 3. These are  classic stats of a high damage, 
						high investment Pokemon. Sadly, very few Pokemon with 
						high costs have ever proven playable, but hopefully 
						Nidoking can buck the trend!
 
 There are 2 abilities, an attack and a pokebody. The 
						body, Pheremone Stamina, is the reson that Nidoking can 
						claim the current title of highest possible HP in the 
						game. Pheremone Stamina boosts Nidoking's HP by 20 for 
						each Nidoqueen you have in play, so with 4 'queens, 
						Nidoking can get 220 HP! Add expert belt for a whopping 
						240! Even in unlimited with cards like Low Pressure 
						system as well as recent cards like Expert Belt and 
						Shaymin (Ground form) Lv X, Torterra can't manage more 
						than 230 HP.
 
 Sadly, I can't say that the body is all that brilliant. 
						While massive HP is always good, the tradeoff is usually 
						being unplayable in every other way. In this case, it 
						means you need 4 stage 2 Pokemon in play to get the 
						maximum effect. Still, the claim of Highest HP is not to 
						be mocked!
 
 Now the attack. Venomous Horn pretty much spells it out, 
						since the attack deals heavy damage (80 to be exact) and 
						inflcits auto-poison. Sadly, the cost is FFCC, which 
						means a 3 turn minimum to attack and a fairly heavy 
						investment for which you would expect more damage. At 
						least Double Colourless energy can be used, but the 
						attack is a letdown on such an awesome Pokemon. It 
						should have 120 base damage with the auto-posion, or 100 
						base damage with a stronger posion (the 
						2-damage-counters-in-between-turns variety that is so 
						commonly seen with Toxic attacks)
 
 The real problem with Nidoking is the lack of partners. 
						While Nidoqueen RR is awesome in every way and keeps 
						Nidoking healthy, the rotation removed Nidoqueen MT with 
						it's Mother Pheremone pokebody which would have been the 
						perfect for both boosting Nidkoking's HP and lowering 
						the attack cost (and it stacked!). Running 2 of each 
						Nidoqueen while running some Nidoking RR for the 
						defensive body (putting damage counters on the 
						opponent's attackers) would have made an awesome deck, 
						but I doubt anyone will try this Nidoking with 4 
						Nidoqueen RR's since Nidoqueen has so many other 
						partners that are much more powerful and popular.
 
 However, you should never forget the Golden Rule: 
						Nidoking = AWESOME!
 
 I have tried not to let my bias show through, but I do 
						believe that this Nidoking would have been viable if 
						Nidoqueen MT was still in the playable pool. That, and 
						Nidoking has a natural aura of power and majesty which 
						demands respect, obedience and will smack you into 3 
						separate dimensions if you so much as sneeze in the 
						wrong direction!
 
 Modified: 3 (High HP and synergy with Nidoqueen RR, but 
						it is ruined by an attack that should deal 40 more 
						damage and/or have a stronger auto-poison)
 Limited: 3 (the Nidoqueen in this set is great in 
						Limited, so if you pull both add a point to the score)
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