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Pojo's Pokémon Card of the Day
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Top 10 Cards Lost to Set Rotation
#1 - VS Seeker
- Phantom Forces
Date Reviewed:
August 11, 2017
Ratings
& Reviews Summary
See Below
Ratings are based
on a 1 to 5 scale.
1 being horrible.
3 ... average. 5 is awesome.
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21times |
VS Seeker
(Roaring Skies, 110/108) is the most impactful
card that is leaving the Standard format because of the
current rotation.
While it is easy to argue that it was not the
most influential card over the past three years, a
couple of factors have combined to establish it as the
card that we will miss the most:
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Its functionality stands without par.
Unless your deck ran
Vileplume (Ancient
Origins, 3/98), you probably ran four of them.
You can count on one hand the number of cards in
the format today that are universal four ofs in almost
every deck (and you’ll have some fingers left over).
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It has no replacement.
While we might experiment with
Puzzle of Time
(Breakpoint, 109/122) and we now have a few
Pokemon with attacks that let you pull cards out of your
discard pile (Gardevoir
GX (Burning Shadows, 93/147) and
Heatmor (Burning
Shadows, 24/147)), no card in the Standard format
today can replicate what
VS Seeker
currently does.
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Several of the best cards that will rotate out have
other cards that will replace or even improve upon them
(Tapu Lele GX
(Guardians Rising, 60/145) has at least
supplanted Shaymin EX (Roaring Skies, 77/108) and
Guzma (Burning Shadows, 115/147) will render
Lysandre (Ancient
Origins, 78/98) obsolete).
Therefore,
VS Seeker has the unfortunate bearing of the top card lost to
rotation in 2017.
It was not the best card over the past three
years, but it’s the one we will most regret losing (and
hope for a reprint!
Please!!!) come September 1st.
Rating
Standard: 5 out of 5
Conclusion
This is the only card in the
top ten lost to rotation that I gave a five out of five.
If not for
Guzma and Tapu Lele GX, I
have no doubt that
Shaymin EX and
Lysandre would have received a five out of five as
well. Maybe
that offers a glimpse of hope for us: as most of the
other significant cards lost to rotation have received
reprints or alternatives, perhaps a Pokemon with an
Ability or a new Supporter card will come our way soon
to let us grab Supporters from the discard pile once
again.
Finally, if losing
VS Seeker isn’t enough to ruin your day, here’s a glimpse at some of
the cards that we
could be losing a year from now:
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Brigette
(Breakthrough, 134/162)
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Professor Sycamore
(Steam Siege, 114/114)
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Float Stone
(Breakthrough, 137/162)
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N
(Fates Collide, 105/124)
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Special Charge
(Steam Siege, 105/114)
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Garbodor
(Breakpoint, 57/122)
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Zoroark
(Breakthrough, 91/162)
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Volcanion
(Steam Siege, 25/114)
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Greninja
(Breakpoint, 41/122)
And on that note, have a great
weekend - our top ten from Burning Shadows starts
Monday!
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At last, we come to
the card lost to rotation that we’ll miss most: VS
Seeker. This card has a longer history than
any of the others on this list, as I don’t have to
produce a similar older card since it is an older
card! VS Seeker originally released as EX:
FireRed/LeafGreen 100/112, then again as PL:
Supreme Victors 140/147, the third time as XY:
Phantom Forces 109/119, and finally as XY:
Roaring Skies 110/108. Its original release
lead to
this review, the re-release led to
a second look,
and you can see what Baby Mario, aroramage, and myself
thought of its third release
here.
I took a moment to re-read all of those reviews, and I
have to say it is fascinating what I got right and what
I got wrong about VS Seeker. This
Trainer-Item allows you to add a Supporter from your
discard pile to your hand; the last few formats have
been ones where Supporters were either the only or at
least the primary source of big draws, and even now when
we have alternatives, they were just allowed to
encompass other powerful plays. Whereas I
initially thought we’d see most decks running two due to
Item lock, instead four copies became the norm!
Even now, five of the top 8 Masters Division
decks at the North American International Championship
ran the full four count. A sixth deck ran
three, and the two that ran zero were focused on
a T1 Vileplume (XY: Ancient Origins
3/98)... so it makes sense they wouldn’t run a card they
hoped to never have a chance to use.
So, besides the
fear of Item-lock decks, the other reason we
underestimated this card’s appeal is its past history;
while it was good, older decks often ran fewer
Supporters, relying more heavily on Pokémon effects for
draw/search. Forgive me repeating the point, but
combined with the less Supporter-focused formats, it was
difficult to justify more than a copy or two of VS
Seeker in one’s deck. How times changed!
Even without slick tricks like Battle
Compressor or Lysandre’s Trump Card or
Battle Compressor for Lysandre’s Trump
Card (and up to two other Supporters), VS Seeker
is just amazing for how it boosts a deck’s consistency,
either by providing an extra copy of a card you’ve
already maxed out or by making TecH or doubles of
a Supporter adequate. Lysandre often pops up on
a player’s last turn to end the game, forcing something
vulnerable - like Shaymin-EX (XY: Roaring
Skies 77/108, 106/108) - to the Active position
where it can be OHKO’d. Most of the time, I find
this is actually preceded by VS Seeker for
Lysandre! Cards like Archie’s Ace in the
Hole, Maxie’s Hidden Ball Trick, Teammates,
etc. are easier to use when you can snag one from the
discard pile. In fact, I wouldn’t blame you if
you’ve grown tired of me stating the obvious.
Currently,
VS Seeker is a staple in most decks, and
only in a few decks does a player run less than three or
four. This applies to Standard or Expanded play;
September 1st is unlikely to change things in Expanded
play, while Standard must now do without this wonderful
bit of Supporter recursion. Should it be
reprinted, I expect players to flock back to it, unless
we experience another significant shift in deck
operation. As I’ve repeated over and over again,
odds are against you enjoying VS Seeker in a
Limited event; for Pokémon, this method of play is used
almost exclusively for Pre-Releases and the odd side
event… though a quick Google search showed better prices
than I expected. Odds are low you’ll pull one with
XY: Roaring Skies boosters, as it is a Secret
Rare there, but both sets have at least a few Supporters
so I think it would be a must run, and likely to help
you out significantly. Skip it if you have the
misfortune of not pulling even one Supporter from
your boosters. I know VS Seeker has shown
up in some of the Battle Arena Decks, but those do
not count as Theme Decks for the PTCGO… oh, looks
like there is at least one of the PTCGO-exclusive
Theme Decks has VS Seeker; while I believe it is
less effective without proper backing, it should still
be most welcome. Assuming a revision didn’t remove
it from the deck(s) entirely.
Ratings
Standard:
4.75/5 (Soon to be N/A)
Expanded:
4.75/5
Limited:
4/5
Theme:
4/5
Conclusion
VS Seeker
has been a format defining card, though it can be a bit
hard to tell if you didn’t experience the BW-era/early
XY-era prior to its release. It used to be
a struggle to make room for that second Lysandre,
and several Supporters that later went on to be good
were ignored at first because you needed those slots for
more “reliability” Supporters. VS Seeker is why
the “No Reprints” rule for the set and year-end
countdowns now allows an exception; if we get something
like this reprinted, any reviewer can present it
to the rest of us, so we can consider it for the lists
after all.
Breakdown
VS Seeker
claimed 39 voting points, five more than
second place
finisher
Forest of Giant Plants. It made four out of
five lists, so it is still a fairly impressive finish.
It was number one on my own list, and I do not
regret the decision. Remember, I’ve been wobbly on
almost every single one of my picks that actually made
the list, wishing I had rated it higher or lower; this
is the one where I can stand firm.
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Vince |
So we finally come down to the most influential card lost to set
rotation: VS Seeker from EX Firered & Leafgreen,
Platinum Supreme Victors, XY Phantom Forces, and XY
Roaring Skies as a secret rare! Such an old card
never got to be eligible for any Top X List for the Pojo
site up until now, just regular reviews that reviewers
will still praise highly of. Also, with that much
of a gap as to when it was printed, this is the
third time VS
Seeker is about to leave rotation. I don’t know if
the designers would plan to reprint it or not, but at
least VS Seeker will remain in Expanded, where it’ll
always find a home there.
VS Seeker in the games lets you rematch a trainer that you’ve
already battled. For the TCG of that item, it
allows you to search the discard pile for a supporter
card and put it onto your hand. This translates
very well in the TCG since Supporters are based on
various characters. This is extreme helpful, since
with however many copies of VS Seeker you use, your
maxed out copies of a particular Supporter could be your
5th, 6th, 7th, or 8th
copy of said Supporter! VS Seeker help drive down
Supporter counts, giving you room for other Supporters
that you would like to try on your deck.
With VS Seeker gone, Supporters once again suffer huge competition
with other supporters unless you run Puzzle of Times in
order to get back anything from the discard.
Draw-based Supporters are mandatory for any deck hence
the priority to have 4 Professor Sycamore and 4 Ns in
lots of decks. It is critical to have sufficient
draw power or otherwise your deck cannot function.
Other niche Supporters gets thrown in as well such as
Lysandre/Guzma. Overall, consistency is a huge
mess without VS Seeker, and that’s a pretty big deal to
me.
Ratings:
Standard: 5/5
Expanded: 5/5
Limited: 5/5
Notes: I had VS Seeker in my personal list as my number 2 and I
think this is what happened. Both Shaymin-EX and
VS Seeker seem to be fighting for the crown and I think
they should both be number one. Both cards are
frequently seen in nearly every deck, sometimes even
both in the same deck.
Honorable Mentions!
Since they are unable to review the follow ups, I guess
I can talk a little about other cards that could’ve made
the list, but the voting points were not enough to
secure the position:
Eeveelutions from
XY Ancient Origins: Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Flareon adds a type to your Stage 1s in
play, enabling them to hit an expansive range of Pokemon
for weakness, as well as tapping into type specific
supports. 4/5
Maxie’s Hidden Ball
Trick/Archie’s Ace in the Hole from XY Primal Clash:
The requirement of having this Supporter the only card
in your hand may be tough, but if you achieve this, you
get to put a water/fighting Pokemon regardless of Stage
from the discard to your bench, as well as drawing 5
cards. 4/5
Vespiquen from XY
Ancient Origins: Another “Vengeance” style attack that is sadly countered by
Karen. 3/5
Sky Field from XY
Roaring Skies: Unique effect of having up to eight benched Pokemon invites
certain combos for XY Raichu and Mega Rayquaza. 4.2/5
Giratina-EX from XY
Ancient Origins: A Pokemon that tries to multitask: Walls Mega Evolutions and
preventing attachments of Tools, Stadiums, and Special
Energies! 4/5
Well, this has been an interesting countdown. Even if other
cards weren’t in the Top 10, these cards will surely be
missed (except for Forest of Giant Plants, which is
about to be banned). However, the end of a chapter is the beginning of another one, waiting for it to be enjoyed to
its fullest.
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