Hmm...

Mister Satan seems mad about the whole Haymaker thing.

Honestly, I think he's missed a few things about Hay.  First, Mr. S misses
the fact that there are lots of Haymaker Variants out there.  Sponge, which
he cites, is a Haymaker Variant.  So are the popular FTK decks.  However, he
fails to mention a few things.  First, Haymaker...pure Haymaker...took a dive
when Neo was released.  Heck, it took a dive before.  We haven't seen pure
Haymaker since the release of Gym.  We now have Wigglies, Trappers, Spnges,
FTK's, etc.  You get no pure hays anymore.  Second, Slowking really tore
apart true Hays.  Hays rely on such immense trainer power that Slowking cuts
their legs right out from underneath them.

However, you failed to include Sneasel as an addition to the hay arsenal.  
And you underestimate the power of Gold Berry.  And what about Rocket's
Zapdos?  You missed him too!  Rocket's Zapdos+Gold Berry is pretty deadly, if
you ask me.

Additionally, Hay gets some pretty good additions from Neo 2.  Yanma is a
neat Tech Hay card.  Kabutops is a great turn 2 card when breedered from a
Mysterious Fossil.  Evolution Egg (or whatever it'll be called) allows you to
get a turn 1 Aerodactyl in play, effectively stopping the threat of Slowking.
 

And ban SER?  Puh-lease.  Eco Gym made SER close to useless.  Banning SER
isn't the way to do it.  The only way to stop speed decks is to kill their
speed.  That means no Oak, no Nightly Garbage Run, no Bill, no Erika, no Item
Finder no PC Search.  And all that does is cut off one's nose to spite one's
face.  It hurts your own deck as well.  And a lack of trainers just reduces
Hays to Slapfest Haymaker decks like we saw at ECSTS.

Basically, Hays are under control, but they are still a viable part of the
environment.  Saying that they're unstoppable and need to be regulated is
whining, and saying that they are no longer viable is just plain wrong.  
Mister Satan, you should pay more attention to the environment and cards
before complaining like this.

                                                     -FossilMagikarp
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