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Saikyo Cardfighter R
on Cardfight!! Vanguard
Math and the Appeal to Ignorance
Just because you don’t understand it, it won’t stop people
who do from kicking the shit out of you.
A while back during my early days as a card reviewer the
boss actually asked me whether I played Magic the Gathering
on the side. He asked because my reviews were actually
pretty well thought out and seemed to follow the format. I
said no, by the way. I’m not spending years trying to get
good with a game that employs a format that eats whatever
the fuck I save up. I got over one fucking relationship
already; don’t need to be reminded thank you.
Well, as much as I wouldn’t want to play, I can definitely
appreciate the appeal behind it and the game of wits it
brings. I have never seen a quick game of Magic, largely
because of how it’s designed, but it’s at least a good
spectacle, assuming one guy doesn’t get screwed for mana.
But what I enjoy most are the players. Players who take this
shit so seriously they have fucking cash prizes and actively
spend all fucking night running tests and numbers and
streamlining their deck to be as optimal as possible.
That’s why I’m extremely disappointed that such a community
is somewhat lacking in Vanguard. Not non-existent mind you
(shout out to anyone at V-Mundi, if it’s still there, and,
you know, alive), but for the most part the loud idiots
outweigh the quiet smart people. The community is rife with
people I would be confident in my ability to take in a
Vanguard fight, even if I haven’t met them before, just by
the accumulation of their own mistakes. Ones made before we
even start playing was how I got so far at my first Worlds,
I suspect. That, and Heal sack.
Whenever I see any blog article on Vanguard anywhere that
involves having to calculate anything, unless it’s somewhere
with a reputation for it already I see the entire affair as
pretty pointless. Not the math behind it, for the intention
is noble, but because the comments section will inevitably
degenerate into babblings from people claiming ‘oh you can’t
count on maths for everything’, ‘I never got further than
GCSE Statistics but my comment means more than you’, etc.
This is just Appeal to Ignorance to me and I can’t fucking
stand it. All these people put all this effort into doing
the work so you don’t have to and it tends to be largely
ignored because it goes over everyone’s head. This is what
frustrates me: even if you don’t take any of the maths away
they at least can be summarised into some key points. I
mean, what eventually sold me on the whole ‘12 Critical pwns
all’ argument was that it looked reasonably legit and it was
well argued. I saw the argument, not the person, as having
merit and so I started to use it. Also, it’s kind of hard to
argue when it changes how often you win by an immediately
noticeable factor.
Besides,
it’s not like whoever writes this shit is asking you to
apply maths to fucking everything (and you shouldn’t,
because sad as it is, the world is rarely logical). If the
opponent drops guard for 2-to-pass on your Vanguard, they
look like they can comfortably guard the rest, and your
first check is a trigger, the best thing to do is to go YOLO
and put on the Vanguard and hope for another. Is it sacky?
Hell yes. Is it un-optimal? Fuck no. If there are no other
outs, go with whatever seems like the most sure-fire path,
even if the odds aren’t all that high.
This hatred of logical probability seems to be that the only
people who bother to drop a comment are people who can’t do
the math and/or won’t. Actually, almost no-one falls into
just the ‘won’t’ camp because if they can, they’d probably
check to see if it was legit for themselves. All those
people just hide behind some incredibly weak arguments,
usually involving scenarios so specific they cannot be used
as general arguments, or just by calling bullshit and
continuing to make the same mistakes over and over. If you
don’t believe in probability in this game here I’d love to
see you in a casino sometime because those fuckers would rob
you dry. It would also be extremely poetic.
All the same, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t kill you to at
least humour whoever wrote it and see if it plays right. 50
games or so, because if you quit after like 3 games then you
are a putz and deserve to have your ass handed to you,
because even if you don’t understand it, if you know if the
initial argument was one presented logically and didn’t look
like it was pulled out their ass (pro-tip: if they say ‘in
my opinion/from personal experience’ I declare it a lost
cause and piss off) then there is always the possibility
that they may in fact be right. If the number of instances
where they may be wrong is outweighed by the times it got
you out of trouble, consider that the argument has merit and
that it doesn’t deserve to just be dismissed. Worked for me:
I hadn’t played a local tournament for months and I still
made everyone my bitch upon my triumphant return. By the
way, I am sort of aware of the way the last sentence was
constructed after previously decrying personal experience,
so don’t bother pointing it out.
I primarily just rely on the completely unsubtle approach to
Vanguard and throw in some abuse-able probabilities on the
side. I don’t try to compensate with any finicky combos like
the rest of the community, not unless the support is sort of
asking for it, like Aqua Force. You’d be surprised as to how
far vanilla play can carry you if you simplify a deck and
just maximise the odds of a combo succeeding or having a
good backup plan. That’s why save for the very rogue decks
the idea behind the math of Vanguard should be something
reasonably universal that can apply to any new deck you
build, even if you’re just going by gut at this point.
The fact is my sort of Vanguard doesn’t leave a lot of room
for just opinion. Maybe I haven’t found the most optimal way
to use something but I can be damn well sure it exists, and
math and probability is going to play a part, even if it’s
only about how my opponent interacts with it. Fuck opinion.
Freedom of speech is a cool thing to have, I grant you. But
by the same token I also reserve the right to mercilessly
mock you for being fucking stupid, a concept that seems to
be going over the heads of your latest candidates for US
President.
Saikyo passed A Level Maths, ask him how at
saikyocardfighter@outlook.com
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