From: Chaos mech [mailto:chaosmech@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: The Way the Banlist SHOULD be-- Chaosmech
The way the banlist SHOULD be-Chaosmech
Hey everyone! Chaosmech here again.
Ok, I know there have been many complaints about the
new banlist, mine among
them. So I wanted to bring to you all an idea I had
a few weeks ago.
It seems that Konami goes overboard limiting good
combos. Remember Mirage of
Nightmare? When it wasn't banned, Emergency
Provisions wasn't even limited!
But guess what? As soon as Mirage of Nightmare was
gone, POOF! Emergency Provisions is semi-limited.
WTH? I mean, Mirage is GONE. G-O-N-E, gone.
Emergency Provisions isn't as good anymore. Why
semi-limit it?
Why is CED banned? Yes, it's powerful, but mostly
b/c of the Yata combo. Why
was Book of Taiyou limited until just recently?
Because of the mill deck.
Why is Treeborn frog limited now? Because people
abuse it with Monarchs. But
while this may help keep Monarch Control from taking
over, it also dampens the playability of the Frog
deck, which many people were looking forward to.
In their haste to prevent good cards from taking
over the game, Konami has also limited the
playability of decks that might utilize those cards
outside
of the killer combos they are infamous for.
What I propose is what I like to call a "compound"
banlist. That is, set a number of conditions for
each limited/semi-limited/banned card that would
allow a player to maybe choose one or the other, or
limit the number of combo cards you could have. For
example:
Pot of Avarice
IF:
You have one or less copies of "Magical Merchant" in
your deck, you may have three copies of "Pot of
Avarice."
You have two copies of "Magical Merchant" in your
deck, you may have two copies of "Pot of Avarice."
You have three copies of "Magical Merchant in your
deck, you may have one copy of "Pot of Avarice."
You have a copy of "Painful Choice" in your deck,
you may have only one copy of "Pot of Avarice."
As you can see, this limits the usefulness of the
Merchant-Pot combo that makes or breaks the MPT
(merchant-pot-turbo) deck. While Magical Merchant
isn't powerful in and of itself to limit, its combo
with Pot of Avarice makes a great deck, one that is
hard to beat. I don't think PoA is good enough to
limit by itself, either, but when in a deck with
Merchant, then it
is broken. But with this kind of list, Pot of
Avarice isn't restricted outside the MPT deck, and
it forces the MPT players to balance the power. Do
I go more Merchants, or more Pots? It forces us to
think. Also:
You may have only ONE of the following in your deck:
Pot of Greed
Delinquent Duo
This would allow a player to choose one or the
other, would allow either to be played, but would
prevent the rampant use of 2-for-1's so common in
the format before last October 1st. Or something
like this:
Mirage of Nightmare:
You may only have one in your deck.
If you choose to have this card in your deck, you
may not have more than one copy of "Emergency
Provisions" in your deck.
There, that prevents the abuse of the
Mirage-Provisions combo while allowing both to be
played. Also, now that both Envoys are banned, can
we have Painful choice back? Only put a small
restriction on it:
Painful Choice:
If this card is in your deck, you may not have more
than one copy of "Pot of Avarice" in your deck.
This card would allow combos like BEUD and Dragon's
Mirror, and Skull Servant decks, while at the same
time, keeping the Envoys out of the picture. Also
preventing Pot of Avarice from running wild.
In short, Konami needs to sit down, look at the
metagame for both Japan and the U.S. Create a
separate banlist for each, one that follows the
guidelines
I just discussed. They need to think about why each
card is banned/limited, and then, if it's banned b/c
it's too powerful by itself, then keep it banned.
Otherwise, limit the combo potential. My version:
The following cards may NOT be used in your deck,
side deck, or fusion deck.
Black Luster Soldier-Envoy of The Beginning Change
of Heart Chaos Emperor Dragon-Envoy of the End Dark
Hole Fiber Jar Harpie's Feather Duster Imperial
Order Makyura the Destructor Mirror Force Monster
Reborn Raigeki Ring of Destruction Witch of the
Black forest Yata-Garasu
The following cards are limited to one:
Book of Moon
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Call of the Haunted
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Confiscation1
Cyber Jar
D.D. Assailant
D. D. Warrior lady
Dark Magician of Chaos
Deck Devastation Virus
Delinquent Duo1
Exchange of the Spirit
Exiled Force
Exodia the Forbidden One
Graceful Charity2
Heavy Storm
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Last Turn3
Last Will
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Lightning Vortex
Limiter Removal
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Magical Scientist4
Metamorphosis
Mirage of Nightmare5
Morphing Jar
Mystical Space Typhoon
Painful choice6
Pot of Greed7
Premature Burial
Protector of the Sanctuary
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Sangan
Scapegoat
Sinister Serpent8
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
The Forceful Sentry1
Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Time Seal
Torrential Tribute
Treeborn Frog*
Tsukuyomi
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand
*this card is only limited if you have one or more
copies of a card with "Monarch" in its name.
The following cards are limited to two:
Abyss Soldier
Creature Swap
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Gravity Bind
Level Limit-Area B
Magician of Faith
Manticore of Darkness
Night Assailant9
Nobleman of Crossout
Reflect Bounder
Reinforcement of the Army
Upstart Goblin
Index of Provisions and Exceptions
1. You may only have one of the following cards in
your deck:
Confiscation,
Delinquent Duo, and The Forceful Sentry. If you have
Delinquent Duo, you may
not have Pot of Greed in your deck. If you have one,
you may not have the other two.
2. If you have this card in your deck, you may not
have a Sinister
Serpent,
and you may have only one copy of Night Assailant.
Also, if you have this card in your deck, you may
not have a copy of "Painful Choice" or a copy of
"Pot of Greed" in your deck.
3. If you have this card in your deck, you may not
have more than one
copy
of "Jowgen the Spiritualist"
4. If you have this card in your deck, you may not
have any copies of
"Catapult Turtle" in your deck.
5. If you have this card in your deck, you may not
have more than one
copy
of "Emergency Provisions" in your deck.
6. If you have this card in your deck, you may not
have a copy of
"Graceful
Charity" in your deck, and you may not have more
than one copy of "Pot of Avarice."
7. If you have this card in your deck, you may not
have a copy of
"Delinquent Duo" or a copy of "Graceful Charity" in
your deck.
8. You may not have this card in your deck if you
have a copy of
"Graceful
Charity" in your deck.
9. This card is limited to one if you have a copy of
"Graceful
Charity in your deck.
Special:
Pot of Avarice:
IF you have one or less copies of "Magical Merchant"
in your deck, you may have three copies of "Pot of
Avarice"
IF you have two copies of "Magical Merchant in your
deck, you may have two copies of "Pot of Avarice"
IF you have three copies of "Magical Merchant" in
your deck, you may have one copy of "Pot of Avarice"
If you have this card in your deck, you may not have
a copy of "Painful choice"
Hope that answers all your questions.
If you still have questions, or want a deck fix, or
if you just want to talk, email me at chaosmech@hotmail.com
Keep it cool, chaosmech