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Flamecore Elemental
Planar Chaos


Reviewed April 3, 2007

Constructed: 1.40
Casual: 2.00
Limited: 2.60

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Flamecore Elemental

I only think of this card for limited, and I try not to think about this card in limited. That is, while you want some fatties in your Time Spiral draft decks, this creature, with its echo-heavy casting cost, is not so hot.

Yes, he’s big, but while four mana is a bargain for his 5/4, it’s quite a bit less of a bargain when you have to pay for him twice. He was much more useful before Planar Chaos, where more draft decks might have included red as a main color. That option is quite a bit less attractive now, and therefore so is Flamecore Elemental. I’ve never thought of him from a constructed point of view, and honestly, there just is no place for this uninspiring creature in either Standard or Block Constructed, but as far as casual play is concerned, there probably isn’t anything too awful.

CONSTRUCTED: 1.0
CASUAL: 2.0
LIMITED: 2.5

BMoor

Flamecore Elemental

It's a 5/4, which is respectable. It doesn't have any abilities beyond Echo, so it'll likely just swing and get blocked. Meaning, it will kill a few creatures or force them to play a combat trick. It can come out a turn earlier than its sister Fire Elemental, but you have to pay a total of eight mana over two turns. Well, that's not as much as it sounds like when you consider it's only four mana on any given turn. I just wish it had some ability other than Echo so it's not just a vanilla creature after you pay the Echo.

Constructed- 2
Casual- 2.5
Limited- 3

Aethereal

Tuesday - Flamecore Elemental

This time, an updated version of Fire Elemental. He costs 1 less for the same stats, but you have to pay echo (Hmm, do I smell a theme this week?). See yesterday's review, and copy and paste it in regards to this. He just has no place in constructed with so many superior options.

In casual, he's okay as a budget creature I guess.

In limited, a great pick if you're playing red. He's relatively large and he comes out earlier than he should.

Constructed - 1.5
Casual - 2
Limited - 3.5

-David N

Tuesday
Flamecore Elemental
Another among a series of echo red creatures. Only playable in thick-skinned goblin decks. Nothing special here.

Constructed: 1
Casual: 1
Limited: 2
David Fanany Flamecore Elemental

Echo creatures usually have to be very, very efficient (Pouncing Jaguar) or have a powerful comes-into-play ability (Avalanche Riders, Hunting Moa) to be useful in constructed. Four mana and then four mana again next turn for a 5/4 creature isn't a very good deal. Maybe this goes in your casual Thick-Skinned Goblin deck, but I think it's most playable in limited games. There are still better creatures in Time Spiral limited, but Flamecore Elemental is okay as a late addition to your deck.

Constructed: 1/5
Casual: 2/5
Limited: 2/5
LennonMarx Constructed
I can't see any reason to use this card. It's a 5/4 for essentially 8 mana, and thats it. 8 Mana should win the game. Just play something else, more burn perhaps, just not this.
1.5/5

Casual
Thick-Skinned Goblin is this guys friend, and in a casual echo deck this guy is pretty good. A 5/4 for 4 is never bad, granted it's contingent on another, frailer creature, but it is still pretty beefy. On it's own, its still a 5/4 for 8 mana over 2 turns, but casual tends to be a little slower so it shouldn't be a big issue if you build your deck with echo in mind.
3/5

Limited
It's a solid body, not amazing but not terribe. Not a real high pick in draft, and I would rather not play him, but it's a possible 22nd or 23rd card.
2.5/5
PsychoAnime Constructed: Play this and lose.

In Casual, Thick-Skinned Goblin saves this from a 1/5, and it does have a
4/5 body so it's ok for a really low budget player.

In Limited, it's a pretty big body that may win a ground war, and losing 1
turn in this format for the Echo isn't as bad as in the other formats.

Constructed: 1/5
Casual: 1.5/5, Thick-Skinned Goblin gives it a +0.5
Limited: 2.5/5, it passes, but not an early pick

Arcane
Flamecore Elemental

This review, and tomorrow’s, are going to be pretty similar to yesterday’s review with very little change.

Constructed: If echo didn’t work for a cheap evasive creature, then it doesn’t work for me as a slightly larger creature with no advantageous abilities. Mana is precious every turn of a game in constructed Magic, and a turn spent paying for a lackluster creature is going to give your opponent tempo advantage; it’s just asking for a blue deck to bounce it or a black deck to destroy it outright before you ever get the chance to swing.

Casual: There’s just better creatures. Spend the extra 1 mana now, get a Fire Elemental and avoid paying 4 more mana on your next upkeep. The only deck I could see this working in is a deck using something like Pandemonium, Anger and Stalking Vengence.

Limited: It’s probably going to be bigger than anything else that comes out on turn 4, but that’s all that a creature like this has going for it. There’s no evasion, no protection ability, nothing more than a 5/4 body that ends up costing you 8 mana. If you’re real creature light then run it, but it’s not going to be a first choice ever.

Constructed: 1
Casual: 2
Limited: 2
The Missing Linc Flamecore Elemental

This will have no place in constructed due to it's lack of evasion. In limited, this is an OK pick. Not much flavor to this guy. He is simply big and big can be good in limited.

Constructed: 2
Casual: 2
Limited: 3
Necro
nomikron
Flamecore Elemental:

This guy is overcosted for constructed. He messes up your tempo too much.

Casual: This guy could be ok in your thick skinned goblin deck, but not really. Even so, he'd just be a 5/4 for 4.

Limited: Well, it's a big body, and its out of rift-bolt range on the backside. Still, probably not a very high pick unless you have a poor pool.

Constructed: 1/5
Casual: 2/5
Limited: 3/5

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